misunderstood?

Misunderstood. That is what I feel when I read how our God & our Saviour Jesus Christ (Yeshu/Joshua) had experienced in the biblical time.

Anyway, communication is a very delicate thing that need high levels of competence , intelligence, plus the science & art of how to avoid communication breakdown. Text communication easily caused problems. Translated text and translated ancient text even more problems.

1 of the typical examples,
when God & Jesus talked about kingdom, people, there, back then, imagined it would be Earthly political power kind of thing, to defeat invaders & restore political authority.

Misunderstood. 
Did the trinity God know the levels of comprehension & misunderstanding?

Mordern days, almost every city people know and even have to do some marketing. Marketing keywords / marketing talk ?

Anyway, what we can now make use of are the many translations, and to pray that the Holy Spirit guide us to understand better.

Credit, image created with 

YouVersion Bible app. Mark 8:35. AMPC.

Ever wonder,

 if 

the Trinity God

 come to visit us in this era, 

how would 

God 

present & preach

 the Truth, the Way, the Life? 

water comparing 1

Not all water the same. By comparison to find better ones.
These are some bottled still spring water and or still mineral water.
Fuji, Highland Spring, Volvic, Co-op,VOSS...

Brands   Unit: mg/L	Fuji	Highland Spring	Volvic (Danone     Waters)	Co-op Fairbourne  Springs	VOSS (a USA  company but majority  of control :  a PRC Chinese company Reignwood Group )
Description	Artesian water. UV treated drinking water	Still Spring water	Natural Mineral Water (filtered by volcanic  rocks)	Still natural mineral water	artesian water (still)
Source	Yaqara, Viti Levu	Ochil Hills	Clairvic Spring	Fairbourne Springs, Churchstoke, Montgomery, Powys	Iveland
Country	Fuji Islands	UK - Scotland	France	UK - Wales	Norway (not in VOSS)
bottle	plastic	plastic	plastic	plastic	glass
volume	1 Litre	1.5 Litre	1.5 Litre	2 Litre	800 ml
pH at source	7.7	7.8	7.0	7.8	5.5
Bicarbonates	153.0	150.0	74.0	137.6	<20.0
Calcium	18.0	40.5	12.0	46.2	5.0
Chloride*	9.0	no data	15.0	15.8	12.0
Fluoride*	no data	no data	no data	0.1	0.1
Magnesium	15.0	10.1	8.0	6.0	1.0
Nitrates	1.0	3.1	7.3	6.3	-
Nitrites*	no data	no data	no data	no data	-
Potassium	5.0	0.7	6.0	0.8	-
Sodium	18.0	5.6	12.0	12.1	6.0
Sulphate	1.0	5.3	9.0	23.4	5.0
Other:Silica	93.0	no data	32.0	no data	-
Other *	not listed	not listed	not listed	not listed	*not listed
Dry Residue  at 180 degree C	222.0	170.0	130.0	195.0	44.0
note taken	2017.06	2017.08	2017.08	2017.08	2017.08

(officially version of released info as on the food labels in packaging,
except VOSS, which is from their official website.
Different from data printed on bottle & in Wikipedia.
Data on bottle is different & fewer. Truth??? )
Their water quality report full version listed more,
including 0.037 mg/L Manganese, 3.381mg/L ±1.004 Radium 226/228 (combined),

 NOTE 1:
  There are non-sparkling still water sold in glass bottles.
Eg. :
Acqua Pana, Evian, Harrogate, Hildon,
Highland Spring, Perrier, San Pellegrino, VOSS, Waitrose, etc.

* NOTE 2:
last dacade there was a specialist website that someone took bottle waters to do lab test.  They found that actual chemicals are usually not necessarily fully listed in packaging. Actual chemicals and Chemicals at source listed in packaging can be different.
Somehow that website was shut down.

NOTE 3:
plastic bottle: Store in odor free environment,
and away from direct sunlight. Once opened, keep chilled and used withing 7 days(or so).
I take that as the plastic has chemicals which can migrate into the water under circumstances. And, for smaller bottles, I read elsewhere that they can be easily become a pedri dish within 24 hours aka brew bacteria once you start drinking from it in contact to your mouth. 

WHY I make this?
I started noticing water about 20 years ago.
I used to drink in office & at home evaporated water
which was popular and said to be very pure.
So I notice odor +/ odd taste
 if I drink tap water.
Then there are people criticize not good to drink water too pure!!
Anyway, in Summer we drink more water. 
If we do not guard well,
it is down to ruin our kidneys & body,
 overloaded with unwanted chemicals. 

WHY tap water is not good?
They typically have hundreds of chemicals
ranging from heavy metals, pesticides, herbicdes, etc,
and anything people put in drainage ,
that include medicine & drugs, etc.
Not to mention all kinds of
hair dye chemicals,
floor polish chemicals,
 drainage caustic acid,
car wash chemicals, etc.
Even just basic lists
 in websites of  some
relatively open water companies
can be scary enough.

Let alone chemicals that
they are not able to filter //
not willing to //
can't afford to test //
dare not to test //
do not release to let people know.

click click click and found more

www is wonderful
 where I saw people sharing
antique versions of translated bibles
page by page HD images and searchable!
 where I also saw people sharing
some of the books of bible
which were either lost or edited out
by Constantine, other monachs in Europe & the Vatican...

The Nag Hammadi Library

Hope more truth come out.

Hope the more complete teaching of Jesus come out.


Gospel/Book of Thomas,
Gospel/Book of Philip,
Gospel/Book of Mary Magdelene,
Gospel/Book of Egyptian,
Book of Truth,
Apocryphon secret book of John,
Apocryphon revelation of James,
Apocryphon revelation of Paul,
Apocryphon of Adam,
The Acts of Peter & the Twelve Apostles,
Prayer of Paul,
and many more.


Also on www,
I saw resource saying that
Jesus had lived and learned in Egypt, India and Tibet.

Nazareth Jesus & Essenes.

He could be
vegetarian#,
fasting,
wearing white robes,
meditating,
doing yoga,
knowing about the chakras & other esoteric stuff,
which were all edited out by the medieval kings ...

Some even said he continued to live in India
and died there many years afterwards.

Believes, Faith, Teachings,
Esoteric...
East & West....
Hope that truth will be out and
see all religions were actually same teachings.


# many ancient religions teach about vegetarianism.

misled ?!?

Which versions of translated documents have you been given?
How close they are to the real original / meaning /truth?
I shall investigate.

Let us check...

Example:  Bible,,,, LUKE:24:41-42

variations 1:

Did Jesus ask for  ~
 any meat or any food  to eat?

variation 2:

Was Jesus given ~
just fish, or, fish & honeycomb?

(and Jesus only took one of them
as in many versions of  Luke 24:43)

http://www.biblestudytools.com/luke/24-41-compare.html

Versions which use "food" or anything to eat / something to eat /

early versions which use "meat"

Common English Bible, Douay-Rhiems Catholic Bible, English Standard Version, GOD'S WORD Translation, Good News Translation, Hebrew Names Version, Holman Christian Standard Bible, Jubilee Bible 2000, Lexham English Bible, New American Standard Bible, New International Reader's Version, New King James Version, New Living Translation, New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha, The Bible in Basic English, The Complete Jewish Bible, The Darby Translation, The Webster Bible, Today's New International Version,, World English Bible, Wycliffe, Young's Literal Translation, etc.

King James Version King James Version w/ Apocrypha Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha Tyndale

 

Luke 24:42

versions which listed both:     fish + honey comb

versions which listed only fish: cooked fish / broiled fish/ baked fish / leftover fish

The Darby Translation, Douay-Rhiems Catholic Bible, Hebrew Names Version, Jubilee Bible 2000, King James Version, King James Version w/ Apocrypha, Third Millennium Bible, Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha, The Webster Bible, World English Bible, Wycliffe, Young's Literal Translation,

American Standard Version, The Bible in Basic English, Common English Bible, Common English Bible w/ Apocrypha, The Complete Jewish Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, English Standard Version, Good News Translation, Good News Translation w/ Apocrypha, GOD'S WORD Translation, Lexham English Bible, The Message Bible, New American Standard Bible, New Century Version, New International Reader's Version, New International Version, New Living Translation, New Revised Standard, New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha, Orthodox Jewish Bible, Revised Standard Version, Revised Standard Version w/ Apocrypha, Today's New International Version, Weymouth New Testament,

  http://www.biblestudytools.com/luke/24-42-compare.html

NOTE:
Old Testament - most were written in Hebrew. 
But a few chapters were written in Aramaic:
(in the prophecies of Ezra and Daniel and one verse in Jeremiah) 

New Testament - was writen in Greek. 
Aramaic was the common language spoken in Israel in Jesus' time, 
and it was likely the language He spoke. 
Some Aramaic words were even used by the Gospel writers in the New Testament.

 :::::  What else???

===Exodus 33:3
The promised land for people to go is
"unto a land flowing with milk and honey"
( they are enough to be attractive and luring to people ;
 not roasted meat or wine !)

===Isaiah 7:15

"By the time he knows enough to refuse evil and choose good, 

he will  eat curdled milk and honey."

http://www.biblestudytools.com/isaiah/7-15-compare.html

(go there and see the variations of translation:

1--  curd/ cheese/ sour milk/ curdled milk

2-- sentence structures/ words  / changes of meanings in translations)

===Genesis 1:29
"God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."

=== Genesis 1:30
“And to every beast of the earth, 
and to every bird of the air, 
and to everything that creeps on the earth, 
everything that has the breath of life,
I have given every green plant for food.” —

=== Genesis 9:4-5
(shall not eat meat/flesh with blood/life )
http://www.biblestudytools.com/genesis/9-4-compare.html
http://www.biblestudytools.com/genesis/9-5-compare.html

 === Daniel 1:12
".... ‘Let us be given vegetables to eat and water to drink.’ …” 

=== Leviticus 3:17
"'It shall be a perpetual statute
throughout your generations in all your dwellings,
that you shall eat neither fat nor blood. '"
http://www.biblestudytools.com/leviticus/3-17-compare.html


My conclusion???????
Some authorities or translations seems to
 have made the fact of 
vegetarian diet 
hidden/lost / obscured in bible ...

Was it to suit the ruling class's preference of meat?

Nowadays only few Christians practice 
fasting and cutting out meat/food.

I read materials saying that 
Jesus was likely to be one of the
Nazarene Essenes, 
who lived simple rural life, wore white robes,
ate vegetarian diet, fasted, and meditated.......

He and John the Baptist survived well in rural wilderness/caves 
with vegetarian food in nature, 
like milk/curd/cheese, honey, fish weed, locust fruit...and 
He seems well-experienced in fasting for long period of time!

    source:
http://www.essene.com/Bible/BiblicalBasisOfVeganism.html

http://www.thenazareneway.com/biblical_%20vegetarianism_denis_giron.htm

Faith and religion/churches seems two things now.

Got to be careful what to believe and what to follow.

p.s.
I have been wondering ...
 the translation works,
done over a vast span of centuries,
by different persons of different abilities in different countries,...
with cultural differences,
misunderstanding
of similar words but different meanings in languages,
plus,
different levels of control / influences from those in power--
-- hidden agenda to use religion /bible
to help rule countries/people in medieval times....